greg2009 (August 14, 2008 at 3:52 am)

This election is going to come down to who can win the suburbs. The suburbs is the new battleground, not Reagan Democrats in industrial small/medium towns. People in the suburb is a great place for Obama and McCain. The suburbs are more diverse, more focused on school choice, more for gun control, has many married couples with kids, and are more middle class. This place is neither mostly Democrat or mostly Republican. It is divided

greg2009 (August 14, 2008 at 3:45 am)

Yes Hillary could get swing votes because she is a centrist. I'm not arguing that Obama can win swing votes. I was talking about Dems can't win the SWING states without black support. If the swing votes had a mix of new voters, young voters, and minorities then Obama could win those. People aren't as scared of the "ultra-liberal" label anymore.The Reagan Democrats are fading out because people are more suburban and not as fixated in small industrial towns where the Reagan Dems came.

itsasin702 (August 14, 2008 at 1:12 am)

You think the swing voters are going to vote for obama? the reagan democrats? i have news for you they won't. and african americans would have supported hillary. angry ones would not vote mccain, if anything they would stay home. but hillary has the support of maya angelou and many other influential african americans. Hillary could get it. Obama is not going to get the white working class. not because he is black but because he is too far to the left

greg2009 (August 13, 2008 at 10:23 pm)

I know that the black vote is prevalant in Southern red states because.I'm not silly! Hillary or any Democrat can't win swing states like OH, MI, Penn, MO, FLA, VA, with out a strong majority of the black vote. Hillary would have trouble because a majority of white don't vote Democrat and need some black votes to make up for that. Voters in the South vote along racial lines. Whites vote 75% for Rep/blacks vote 90% for the Dems.Democrats can't win in the South because of that.Polls mean nothing!!

itsasin702 (August 13, 2008 at 7:22 pm)

yes kerry did lead bush by 20 points when he clinched the nomination. and at the time people thought the democrat would win because bush was still very unpopular. and u are saying hillary couldn't beat mccain? um news flash the black vote is prevelant in states that usually go red anyway. obama hada huge weakness with working class voters in the critical swing states. yeah hillary's not gonna win georgia or south carolina but chances are neither will obama.hillarywouldhave won ohio not obama tho

greg2009 (August 5, 2008 at 5:18 am)

kerry didn't have a 20 point lead over Bush. Poll mean nothing until late Aug to late October. Based on all the controversy, if Hillary would have overtaken Obama and clinched the nomination, I don't think she could be McCain. Black voters would stay home because blacks would have seen her campaign and her nomination as racist. Dems can't win a presidential election without large black or black turnout. Latinos would need to help her win.

SerpentScribe7 (July 13, 2008 at 4:09 am)

By the way, 0613, voting Independent could be a good idea, but if the candidates are Lou Dobbs or especially Nader, you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Cynthia McKinney will do all that and much more effieciently without wrecking the liberal vote in swing states like Nader has most likely been paid off by republicans to do time and time again! She was the first black congresswoman in Georgia but was ousted by the DEMS for asking too many questions about 9/11...!

SerpentScribe7 (July 13, 2008 at 4:00 am)

You are seriously blind if you believe those tax cuts have at ALL helped middle-class families! They were for the wealthiest 5-10%, and that's being charitable!! Obama's popularity is Obama's popularity, it's only your xenophobic media that lets you believe its just race. As progressive as I am, Im not supporting Obama in my heart because I know he won't actually change anything except a few symbolic measures. At least hes not McCain, who will plunge us even further into this very real recession

coreyrocks14 (July 11, 2008 at 6:47 pm)

ummm... democrats pay attention.how come liberals don't want the 2001&2003 tax cuts to stay???john mccain atleast wants to benefit single families with the tax cuts.i looked at hillary and obama's views which stated... "no tax cuts!!"wow.... ok.and they didn't have a reason either.why are people still democrat???you know obama is only popular with mostly african-americans and some stupid whites.mitt romney, it sucks you did not make it!!oh well.

heywoodjablohme (July 4, 2008 at 7:39 am)

Veracifier and Josh are great! I love their reporting, it is expert! I'd like to see them comment on the Barr/Root candidacy, and question --in depth-- how much they think Barr is likely to hurt McCain (and maybe Obama) in different states. Also curious about their position on Baldwin (CP) and other third party candidates, especially since Veracifier serves to inform voting trends as well as track them... :)